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E-mail from Michael Roll to David Duffield, January 6, 2003

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For Publication in order to give a balance

David,

so glad you have got the number of these professional wreckers, I refuse to call them sceptics. Yes, debating with them, on their terms, is just as daft as talking about astronomy with a member of the Flat Earth Society or talking about religion with a victim of priestcraft. When coming up against a Christian the first thing you find out is that they know nothing whatsoever about their religion. Not the professional priests, they know what they are selling is a gigantic hoax on the human race. Many good people within the Church have started to tell the truth, only they can deprogramme their victims.

Until now, Randi, Cornell and their gang, have had total freedom of all media and educational outlets. Hence their incredible success. All we have to do for total victory is just present the secular case for survival alongside the "death is the end of everything brigade". They stand no chance against us in open debate on television with millions watching. This is on our terms. I proved this with a dress rehearsal a few years ago when I went up against Dr. Susan Blackmore at London University fielding questions from hundreds of young people. She stands no chance when her arguments are balanced. Then again on live Cable Television. Blackmore was given 5 minutes and I was given the same time to put the scientific case for survival as a branch of physics. Again, game,set, match and championship. Cable TV only went out to a handful of people. This is useless, we must always aim to hit millions from now on like Jeff Rense is doing.

I went up against this Tony Cornell character when John Samson kindly sponsored me to attend a meeting of the Society for Psychical Research that was to discuss materialisation phenomena. I anticipated Cornell's attack on Rita Goold, the greatest materialisation medium ever. Six recently deceased people fully materialising and walking around the room, talking in the same voices they had on Earth. For the few hours they were on Earth they were exactly the same as we are, just as solid and just as natural. I ran off a whole stack of copies of the Cleaver Report which is on my website. Crushing experimental proof of survival:

http://www.cfpf.org.uk

The journalist Alan Cleaver, who is now Editor of The Hampshire Chronicle, reunited the "dead" Helen Duncan, who fully materialised every time Rita gave a demonstration, with her daughter. They spoke for an hour. The daughter would know in two seconds flat if it was her mother on not. This can't be faked. Cornell had no chance when his attack was balanced. As you know mothers and fathers have been physically reunited with their "dead" children at the Rita Goold experiment. Apart from Jenny Smedley of Taunton Television, these parents have been banned from telling their wonderful story in the "free" country of Great Britain. Jeff Rense has interviewed Gwen Byrne who has been reunited with her "dead" son Russell on scores of repeatable experiments. I had to arrange to fly Barry and Pat Jeffery to the free country of Holland in order for them to tell how they have been physically reunited with their "dead" son Michael who was killed on his motor cycle. On something like 300 occasions.

It was a member of the SPR, Maurice Grosse, who put forward the outrageous suggestion to Gwen Byrne that somehow she was projecting her "dead" son Russell with her mind so that he materialised at the Rita Goold experiment. Any alternative idea, however stupid, is floated in order to keep people from the truth - that we are dealing with people who are very much alive and operating in the invisible part of the universe. Then there is the other pathetic idea that is floated by professional wreckers that somehow we are so beside ourselves with grief that we are able to project thought forms of our dead loved ones. This was destroyed when my father materialised at the Rita Goold experiment, went up to my mother, kissed her and apologised for his behaviour to her when he was on Earth. On the way back home mother said to me, "I could have done without that silly bugger materialising!" I was pleased to meet up with my father because he was a good dad but a rotten husband.

I am appealing to the British sense of fair play. Every time you hear James Randi and his devoted followers, who still have total control of all media and educational outlets, attack our great scientist Sir William Crookes. Please say, all right, we have heard your case that Crookes was a liar, a fraud, a crank, a gullible Spiritualist, and a sex maniac. May we now please hear from qualified scientists who disagree with everything you say about this former President of the Royal Society?

We must now repeat Sir William Crookes's experiments with a contemporary materialisation medium as advanced as Rita Goold. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in university grants have been set aside for a medium who comes forward and dedicates their wonderful gift to scientific advancement.

Michael Roll

Comment:
 

Michael Roll is referring to the following comment made on the JREF Internet forum in January 2003:

"With regard to physical mediums, I recommend Tony Cornell's "Investigating the Paranormal" if you have the time, and the money (rather expensive). He details some sittings he had with materialisation mediums, including one (Rita Gould) who had garnered quite a high reputation among some psychical researchers."

One of the responses to this comment is below:

"Call me a cynic in this instance but I seriously doubt in the claims of these "materialisation mediums". I find it laughable that all phenomena need to happen in absolute darkness. At the same time though there are reports of a floating trumpet or supposedly entire people materialising out of ectoplasm. Please, this is such a pathetic hoax I am very surprised that people still flock to it."

Related material on this site:
 

Alan Cleaver's report: In 1982, Alan Cleaver carried out a revolutionary scientific exercise that completely vindicated the pioneering experiments of Sir William Crookes and the Nobel Laureate Professor Charles Richet when they proved survival after death through repeatable experiments under laboratory conditions.

A First-Hand Account of Materialisation Mediumship - Michael Roll describes an experiment he attended with the materialisation medium Rita Goold. This account was written in 1983, but was not accepted for publication until 1992.

A Critique of Susan Blackmore's Dying to Live and her Dying Brain Hypothesis - an article by Greg Stone

The Chemist Sir William Crookes Proved Survival With Repeatable Experiments Under Laboratory Conditions - by Michael Roll

"Russell" - Gwen Byrne's account of being reunited with her "dead" son (1994)